Meeting and Demonstration against the closure of the Lyme Bay Holiday Village
I have been asked to put the following notice on this site. Please note that this announcement has no connection to Stand Up for Seaton councillors, who must be seen to remain neutral in order to be able to speak and vote on anything concerned with this situation. This does not mean that they may not have a predisposition to a particular outcome:
ADVANCE NOTICE:
There will be a RALLY against the forthcoming closure of the Lyme Bay Holiday Village on
Saturday 29 March 2008 at 11 am
outside the LYME BAY HOLIDAY VILLAGE
Fancy Dress optional. Please inform everyone you know to ensure a good turnout. If you have any media contacts, please write to them or email them and get the story out there to as many sources as possible
END OF NOTICE
Labels: lyme bay holiday village, public notice
posted by Fighting for East Devon's future @ 9:00 am
32 Comments:
What an absolutely disgusting thing to do - but then again what do you expect from a company like Tesco?
We have to fight this we've done it before we can do it again
i cant believe this I was one of the people that didnt mind which supermarket we had but now Tesco no way I willbeat the meeting and the demo bring it on I am young and I dontwant to see Seaton get any worse than it is now
i cant believe this I was one of the people that didnt mind which supermarket we had but now Tesco no way I willbeat the meeting and the demo bring it on I am young and I dontwant to see Seaton get any worse than it is now
Tesco are crap dont shop with them see what they have done to us and learn it will onlyget worse
Tesco will get their way, Why have EDDC not said no to their development?
After attending the meeting in Winstons last night I do feel that you should have given the PR man a better welcome to Seaton as they want to work with the town council and it seems to me that it is EDDC that have to answer more questions than Tesco
I too agree that we should have welcomed the tesco pr man with more constructive questioning, instead of the free-for-all the meeting turned into.
As a result of which, I felt nothing was gained, except for portraying the Stand up 4 Seaton group as nothing more than a bunch of narrow minded bigots!
Is this how the people of Seaton wish to be portrayed in any negotiations with potential regeneration partners?
Is this how the people of Seaton wish to be portrayed in any negotiations with potential regeneration partners?
Just a couple of observations to commenters:
Firstly, can people desist from "me too" posts on comments, always try to make your observations to the topic different.
This avoids boring the reader too much(!) and would stop any accusation of "astroturfing".
Secondly:- The town council will have to consider Tescos wider proposal when it appears, on that score they have to be open to all points of view at this time, that's why I read this blog and all its comments:-)
Thirdly, now I have your attention, can people use names other than "anonymous" as they are harder for people to reply to when there's more than one of you!
Maybe people are using "Anonymous" because they don't want be accused of defamation and be served with a writ, like those people in Thailand have been from Tesco.
Just a thought......
The PR company appeared to know very little about the Liatris plan and the problems with it or the level of objection to it within the town. My own feeling is that they have not been paid to know and that their presence was purely a box-ticking "consultation" exercise by Tesco...
Any PR company will be well aware how insulting that apparent ignorance and feigned concern would be to the people at the meeting.
@Balderick
It's a trusim that people/companies with financial werewithall can suppress their critics, but on here, why buy a canine and bark yourself;-)
I think the Stand up for Seaton councillors have a conflict of interest. I am not sure they are really representing the views of REAL seaton people who voted for them in the first place. How about giving Tesco a chance before shooting them down in flames?
@seatonresident
Bit of a sweeping generalisation, see my earlier post in this section. The council, of any representation, have yet to see a proposal...and I've yet to flame anyone;0)
@archmaster
Maybe we shall see Stand up 4 Seaton Councillors walking around town speaking to real working families, and asking them what they want for Seaton. It appears a whole generation is being forgotten in all of this. Young families need a modern supermarket and modern leisure facilities. The Holiday Camp has had its day, and needs to be replaced with much needed modern facilities instead.
But the point is that there are NO plans to provide any leisure facilities at all to replace those that are lost and the loss of tourism will affect jobs across Seaton and the other villages and towns. No land train, no tram, no cafes, little gift shops. A bleak and sad little town like a hundred others with employment confined to shelf stacking and care work. Is that what young families really want?
there is an opportunity here for real regeneration of the sea front, the harbour, the community but only if people have vision.
Tesco has yet to put forward a planning application. If it includes new and improved leisure facilities and tourist accomodation capable of housing 40,000 people a year then perhaps seaton residents will welcome it. However destoying the Town's economy so it can blackmail Seaton is not an auspicious start. Any new facilities would need to be built before a supermarket.
Stand up for Seaton councillors were elected because a majority of those who voted - with a higher turnout than ususal - wanted a Council that would fight for regeneration not redevlopment.
Many Seaton residents contibuted to a brief for regeneration that is being ignored.
You can respond to anonymous comments by referring to anon and the time.
Good to see this issue in The Independent:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/tesco-invades-seaton-ndash-closing-the-nursery-and-holiday-village-800210.html
@ anonymous 12:17
In response to this post :-
1. Seaton is already a bleak little town due to years of neglect from EDDC and lack of vision from the town council.
2. Most job losses from the camp DO NOT affect local people as they employ staff from outside of Seaton and give them accomodation in return for cheap labour. They also rely on eastern european workers as well.
3. Care homes in Seaton already have to source their workforce from abroad as no local workers are prepared to do the work.
4. Young families want more local shops, not Gift shops and cafes. When I say local shops, I mean shops that offer goods & services local people require, & not just tourists.
In response to anonymous @ 8:31, I think successive town councils have already destroyed the Seaton economy. Look at the number of empty shops, and the high turnover of new businesses that fail. How can it get worse?
seaton resident - the closure of those gift shops and cafes also puts local people out of work. You obviously haven't been to the holiday village recently - some employees are people from Seaton. I know some of them, even if you don't. The rest still spend money in Seaton.
The only plan for new shops is the supermaket - and maybe a diy store to put the existing diy stores out of business and even more local people out of work. With Exeter a major shopping centre it is naive to think that many shops will open up in Seaton simply because another supermarket comes here. Why should they when shoppers will go where there is more choice - and there were no plans to provide premises for them anyway, houses were taking up all the space.
Instead you can expect closures of butchers, bakers, veg shops and woolworths. But you can fight all those who have lost full time jobs for part time shelf stacking in Tesco.
reply to anonymous 2:07pm
Unfortunatley Seaton has lost many of the smaller butchers, bakers, newsagents etc already. I see your point that a big supermarket may harm the few shops we have left, however Seaton desperatley needs inward investment. I was concerned to hear 60% of seatonians spending is made outside of the town. Why is this happenning?
It appears to me that people retire to Seaton (houses are cheaper than Sidmouth), then use their free bus pass to shop in elsewhere! We are fast turning into a suburb of Sidmouth, and unless we get modern shopping & tourist facilities soon, we will all end up on the bus to Sidmouth to do our weekly shop!
@Seaton Resident
I own a business in Seaton and regularly see people hopping on the bus to Sidmouth in the morning and arriving home with bags full of shopping in the afternoon.
The arrival of Tesco in Seaton will most certainly keep more money in Seaton but not in small shops like mine! All it will do is add to the £2billion profit Tesco made last year.
Interesting to see the camp closure story making the headlines today in the Daily Telegraph (page 11) Lets hoppe the publicity helps the anti-tesco policy along.
Nice to see Seaton mentioned in a national newspaper! I agree with the comments about having a large supermarket in the town and look forward to the day this happens! as the only supermarket is rubbish! and I have to go to Tesco at Honiton! Lets keep the swimming pool/gym open until all plans go through!
We are not going to get modern shops from Tesco - just one large supermarket which will take money out of the small shopkeepers who live in the town and put it into the pockets of Tesco shareholders.
Yes Seaton needs inward investment - but taking away the tourists who spend money here to replace them with retirement houses is not investment, its greed.
Some of the comments here have struck a chord with me as a relative newbie to Seaton. Previously we shopped locally, with only rare visits to the supermarket. In Seaton this is not possible: The shops are limited in choice of goods and generally low in quality; opening hours are appaling, with many closed Sat pm, Sun, Mon and Thurs (why bother at all?), and so not very useful for those of us who work for a living; and, the one "supermarket" we have is untidy and poorly stocked. The Co-op need a new distribution manager. Seaton shopkeepers only have themselves to blame if they are outcompeted. Why can't they get together and agree on one late shopping night a week and Saturday pm opening?
Seaton is a good sized town in a beautiful setting. Its main problem seems to be it expects someone else to sort out its indifference. Let's encourage our Councillors to make the best out of the Tesco deal, and let's buck our own ideas up.
anonymous 3.05 p.m. While I agree about Saturday closing - madness - you are totally wrong about the quality. It is far superior to anything you will get in Tescos! Several local shops will deliver if you place an order by phone. I have to shop elsewhere for some things (childrens shoes, in particular) - but they are not items Tesco will provide.
Tescos will provide this town with nothing unless it is clear locals will boycott them unless they do.
I was at the rally this morning. It was great to see so many people - even with such bad weather - standing together and protesting about what is happening in our town. Well done Stand Up For Seaton.
I too was at the rally this morning and again well done to all who braved the rain to demonstrate at the closure of Lyme Bay Holiday Village.
Whats the next Move ?
To all those anonymice out there.
Please give your name or a pseudonym, it really doesn't matter which. It is so difficult for people to reply, and to follow the threads, when everyone posts as "anonymous".
As a Seaton Town Councillor, I am concerned that the correspondant known as seatonresident believes that the Stand Up for Seaton Councillors are out of touch with residents of Seaton, and do not listen to "REAL" people. If seatonresident would like to contact me directly, they can be assured, I will listen very carefully indeed.
I gather the Coop is having a refit soon, is this getting ready to take on the competition! We need a larger supermarket in the town along with the facilities of a swimming pool and gym, Lets work with Tesco and try to get them to understand our situation. I hinestly think it is EDDC who has s*** on the residents of Seaton and not Tesco!
As Lizzie said at her meeting in Winstons - nobody buries good news. Isn't int interesting that everyone is blaming everyone else for the closing of the holiday camp. Tesco blames the camp owner and East Devon Council, East Devon Council blames the camp owner. Who does the camp owner blame - but he wont blame anybody because he has a fat cheque in his pocket.
4 or 5 years with no holiday camp and no sbstitute. What next
According to one of the demonstrators who was born in Seaton, the village opened in 1934. This sounds right because in WW2 it was used as an enemy internment camp so had to be there before 1939. Big difference between seven years and 74 years. I remember it being Warners many years ago as we had holidays there.
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